Emily Ratajkowski recently talked to Troye Sivan on her podcast High Low With EmRata about her journey to Taylor Swift fandom, and it's a doozy. The model said she was never into Taylor's music until an ex helped change her mind. She even went to one of Taylor's shows on the Eras Tour and had a really good time.
"I kind of grew up [with] a little snobbery around my generation. I wasn't somebody who listened to pop music a ton," Emily said.
She brought up a conversation she had with one of her exes in which they were "talking about [how] just because something's popular doesn't mean that it isn't excellent."
"Actually, a lot of times the things that are popular are actually just incredibly good," she continued on.
Emily explained how she eventually came to the light: "I came around. It changed it for me completely," she said. "I was not a Swiftie and now I'm like, 'You know what that means? That means I was a misogynist that I didn't fuck with Taylor Swift.'"
"Because I went to her concert and I was like, 'This person is an incredible songwriter, and incredible performer, and anybody who says anything else? Like, they have issues. And actually maybe not a very sophisticated palette,'" she explained. "If you don't like Taylor Swift then, like, you don't understand things."
In a separate interview with Elle, EmRata spoke about the time that she commented on a TikTok defending Taylor Swift. In an old clip, Taylor was on an episode of The Ellen Show when Ellen made her visibly uncomfortable by asking Taylor to name all the male celebrities she dated.
"I recently became a Swiftie. I loved her last album and I've seen her documentary, but I wasn't following her career in the same way the last 10+ years. Watching that [interview], I was so struck by how clear she's being about what is making her uncomfortable. I think the lens that I would've viewed that interview from 10 years ago versus now has evolved so much, which is why is struck me. I was in bed falling asleep and commented on it, not because I thought it was going to make headlines at all," Emily said.
"She's another example of a woman who has been faced with such blatant misogyny and sexism, and yet we don't want to admit that, because she's powerful and successful, and also she's white. There's a bunch of reasons, which I think are fair and important to bring up in the conversation, but that clip in particular was just so striking to me because she was communicating very clearly about why she didn't feel comfortable with what was happening. And it was making everyone laugh. It actually upset me. And I think that just even that speaks to a larger thing I've noticed, where people don't listen to femme-presenting people."
Amen to that! 🥹
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